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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/ABF_LEMO_splitter_tests_24.05.17.pdf Looking at effect of splitting signals for remote testing]:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/ABF_LEMO_splitter_tests_24.05.17.pdf Looking at effect of splitting signals for remote testing]:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Need to split signal from PMT to Caen digitiser and scope with 50&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;Omega; splitter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Need to split signal from PMT to Caen digitiser and scope with 50&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;Omega; splitter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Spectra become less Gaussian and more difficult to fit when using splitter.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &amp;amp;sigma;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;pedestal&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; and &amp;amp;sigma;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;width&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; very similar...&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Effects get worse with lower ADC counts.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Current 50&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;Omega; splitter will &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; work for our purposes.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Need to find a solution in order to monitor signal in 2 places:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Make an active splitter?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Get a 50&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;Omega; BNC splitter to reduce number of cables and connectors.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039; suggest contacting &#039;&#039;&#039;Samer Al-Kilani&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Izzat Darwazeh&#039;&#039;&#039; (UCL EE) for optimal cables and splitting.  &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;LK20170510_BuildUpAndSecondaries&lt;/del&gt;.pdf &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Looking at dose build-up effect in proton therapy and secondary particles&lt;/del&gt;]:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;LK20170524_SegCal_Update&lt;/ins&gt;.pdf &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Update on segmented calorimeter simulations&lt;/ins&gt;]:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Electron contribution &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;dose increases with smaller range cut: more short-range electrons produced&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Corrected Physics List &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;include nuclear interactions&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Threshold at ~1 micron: for shorter range cuts, no difference in dose.  Probably &lt;/del&gt;due to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;990&amp;amp;nbsp;eV &quot;safety threshold&quot; for ionisation in Geant4.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Simulations more accurate &lt;/ins&gt;due to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;inclusion &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;nuclear build-up&lt;/ins&gt;: &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;fit now slightly worse &lt;/ins&gt;as a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;result&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Fun facts about Geant4:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**&#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;agrees that these effects should &lt;/ins&gt;be &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;included in the model&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;but probably not &lt;/ins&gt;at &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this stage&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;Deposited energy&#039;&#039;&#039; ignores energy &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;secondary particles.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;Energy loss&#039;&#039;&#039; records energy of tracked particle and its secondaries BUT in the place where they are produced! (not where the secondaries deposit their energy).&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;Range cut&#039;&#039;&#039;: Only secondaries which are expected to travel further then the range cut will be tracked BUT this theoretically only applies to secondary electrons, positron, gammas and protons.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** To be more clear&lt;/del&gt;: &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;exotic secondaries &lt;/del&gt;as &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;neutrons will always be produced and tracked, independently from the range cut. No influence of the range cut on the number of secondary protons seen.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** There is &lt;/del&gt;a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;safety energy threshold&#039;&#039;&#039; for the production of secondary particles of 990&amp;amp;nbsp;eV since otherwise Geant4 models might fail&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;LET-weighted results show much higher contribution from hadronic secondaries, particularly at high energy.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Range cut effects not clearly understood: &#039;&#039;&#039;ABF&#039;&#039;&#039; suggests contacting &#039;&#039;&#039;Ben Morgan&#039;&#039;&#039; at Warwick.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &#039;&#039;&#039;ABF&#039;&#039;&#039; visiting Nuvia a.s. on Monday 29th May.  &#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039; needs to pull his finger out and book his flights...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;SJ&#039;&#039;&#039; talking at [https://www.ucl.ac.uk/medphys/research/protons UCL Medical Physics PART Group] meeting; &#039;&#039;&#039;LK&#039;&#039;&#039; may &lt;/del&gt;be &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;press-ganged into joining.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* During 3-day trip to PSI&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;discussed collaboration with &#039;&#039;&#039;Ros Perrin&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Tony Lomax&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Sairos Safai&#039;&#039;&#039; to look &lt;/del&gt;at &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;effect of lung motion interplay during PBT dose delivery:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;LuCa&#039;&#039;&#039; lung phantom is tissue equivalent with air-driven breathing cycle: [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/photos/PSI_LuCa_03-05-17/ photos and movies can be found here].&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Plastic scintillator disc would be inserted into phantom and irradiated during treatment: light emission imaged by camera.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** PSI would look after camera, mounting and optics.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** UCL (ie. &#039;&#039;&#039;LK&#039;&#039;&#039;) would write the code to reconstruct the dose distribution in each slice from camera movie by fitting to quenched light output.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Approximately 3 months total work for &#039;&#039;&#039;LK&#039;&#039;&#039;: would include time spent at PSI as part of OMA placement.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;ABF&#039;&#039;&#039; also interested in spending time at PSI&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>SimonJolly: Created page with &quot;== Minutes for UCL Proton Calorimetry Meeting, 24th May 2017 (D17, Physics &amp; Astronomy, UCL) ==  === Present ===  &#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Jolly&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Laurent Kelleter&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Anastasia Basharin...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;== Minutes for UCL Proton Calorimetry Meeting, 24th May 2017 (D17, Physics &amp;amp; Astronomy, UCL) ==  === Present ===  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Simon Jolly&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Laurent Kelleter&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Anastasia Basharin...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Minutes for UCL Proton Calorimetry Meeting, 24th May 2017 (D17, Physics &amp;amp; Astronomy, UCL) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Present ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Simon Jolly&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Laurent Kelleter&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Anastasia Basharina-Freshville&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Jordan Silverman&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ABF&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* Full data acquisition now running completely over the network:&lt;br /&gt;
** Single 50m cat6a cable runs into treatment room.&lt;br /&gt;
** Network hub in treatment room connects to DAQ PC/laptop and scope.&lt;br /&gt;
** DAQ PC connects to Caen digitiser, HV and detector emulator.&lt;br /&gt;
** Connect to scope and DAQ PC via Windows Remote Desktop.&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/ABF_LEMO_splitter_tests_24.05.17.pdf Looking at effect of splitting signals for remote testing]:&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to split signal from PMT to Caen digitiser and scope with 50&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;Omega; splitter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/presentations/2017/LK20170510_BuildUpAndSecondaries.pdf Looking at dose build-up effect in proton therapy and secondary particles]:&lt;br /&gt;
** Electron contribution to dose increases with smaller range cut: more short-range electrons produced.&lt;br /&gt;
** Threshold at ~1 micron: for shorter range cuts, no difference in dose.  Probably due to 990&amp;amp;nbsp;eV &amp;quot;safety threshold&amp;quot; for ionisation in Geant4.&lt;br /&gt;
* Fun facts about Geant4:&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Deposited energy&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ignores energy of secondary particles.&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Energy loss&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; records energy of tracked particle and its secondaries BUT in the place where they are produced! (not where the secondaries deposit their energy).&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Range cut&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Only secondaries which are expected to travel further then the range cut will be tracked BUT this theoretically only applies to secondary electrons, positron, gammas and protons.&lt;br /&gt;
** To be more clear: exotic secondaries as neutrons will always be produced and tracked, independently from the range cut. No influence of the range cut on the number of secondary protons seen.&lt;br /&gt;
** There is a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;safety energy threshold&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; for the production of secondary particles of 990&amp;amp;nbsp;eV since otherwise Geant4 models might fail.&lt;br /&gt;
* LET-weighted results show much higher contribution from hadronic secondaries, particularly at high energy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Range cut effects not clearly understood: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ABF&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; suggests contacting &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ben Morgan&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; at Warwick.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SJ&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SJ&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ABF&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; visiting Nuvia a.s. on Monday 29th May.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SJ&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; needs to pull his finger out and book his flights...&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SJ&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; talking at [https://www.ucl.ac.uk/medphys/research/protons UCL Medical Physics PART Group] meeting; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; may be press-ganged into joining.&lt;br /&gt;
* During 3-day trip to PSI, discussed collaboration with &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ros Perrin&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Tony Lomax&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sairos Safai&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to look at effect of lung motion interplay during PBT dose delivery:&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LuCa&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; lung phantom is tissue equivalent with air-driven breathing cycle: [http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/pbt/wikiData/photos/PSI_LuCa_03-05-17/ photos and movies can be found here].&lt;br /&gt;
** Plastic scintillator disc would be inserted into phantom and irradiated during treatment: light emission imaged by camera.&lt;br /&gt;
** PSI would look after camera, mounting and optics.&lt;br /&gt;
** UCL (ie. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) would write the code to reconstruct the dose distribution in each slice from camera movie by fitting to quenched light output.&lt;br /&gt;
** Approximately 3 months total work for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;LK&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: would include time spent at PSI as part of OMA placement.&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ABF&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; also interested in spending time at PSI.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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