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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Joe Bateman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Re-did simulations in TOPAS (ongoing) and FRED with adjusted input beam size from DICOM for 3x3 and 5x5 cm box fields&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Re-did simulations in TOPAS (ongoing) and FRED with adjusted input beam size from DICOM for 3x3 and 5x5 cm box fields&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Calculated new input beam size as: σ_P = (σ_iso × (SAD - d)) / SAD Where:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Calculated new input beam size as: σ_P = (σ_iso × (SAD - d)) / SAD Where:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** &lt;/ins&gt;σ_P is spot size at position P&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/del&gt;σ_P is spot size at position P&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** &lt;/ins&gt;σ_iso is spot size from DICOM (at isocenter)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/del&gt;d is distance from isocenter to position P&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Using d as 10 cm upstream from phantom surface&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Resulting shape looks more characteristic of TPS distribution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Resulting shape looks more characteristic of TPS distribution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Joe Bateman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Re-did simulations in TOPAS (ongoing) and FRED with adjusted input beam size from DICOM for 3x3 and 5x5 cm box fields&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Calculated new input beam size as: σ_P = (σ_iso × (SAD - d)) / SAD Where:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  σ_P is spot size at position P&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  σ_iso is spot size from DICOM (at isocenter)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  SAD is virtual source-axis distance&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  d is distance from isocenter to position P&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Resulting shape looks more characteristic of TPS distribution.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>JosephBateman: Created page with &quot;== Minutes for UCL Proton Beam Therapy Group Meetings, 4th February ==  === Present ===  &#039;&#039;&#039;Joe Bateman&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Sonia Escribano&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Jolly&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Raffaella Radogna (via Teams)&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Kirsty Hall (from Hamamatsu)&#039;&#039;&#039;  * Discussion with Kirsty Hall from Hamamatsu about photodiode arrays for scintillating fibre array to allow for better integration with QuARC. * Kirsty to investigate two possible routes for going forward: ** Possibility of having on board DDC or way o...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2025-02-10T16:18:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;== Minutes for UCL Proton Beam Therapy Group Meetings, 4th February ==  === Present ===  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Joe Bateman&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sonia Escribano&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Simon Jolly&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Raffaella Radogna (via Teams)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kirsty Hall (from Hamamatsu)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  * Discussion with Kirsty Hall from Hamamatsu about photodiode arrays for scintillating fibre array to allow for better integration with QuARC. * Kirsty to investigate two possible routes for going forward: ** Possibility of having on board DDC or way o...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Minutes for UCL Proton Beam Therapy Group Meetings, 4th February ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Present ===&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Joe Bateman&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sonia Escribano&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Simon Jolly&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Raffaella Radogna (via Teams)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kirsty Hall (from Hamamatsu)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Discussion with Kirsty Hall from Hamamatsu about photodiode arrays for scintillating fibre array to allow for better integration with QuARC.&lt;br /&gt;
* Kirsty to investigate two possible routes for going forward:&lt;br /&gt;
** Possibility of having on board DDC or way of connecting S13885-128 photodiode array to DDC board.&lt;br /&gt;
** Possibility of having surface mounted photodiodes (such as S12859-021) shrunk to a smaller size so that pixel pitch is comparable with 0.5mm fibre diameter. &lt;br /&gt;
* Also will look into questions Raffy has a about current experience with S13885-128 photodiode array, i.e.:&lt;br /&gt;
** If observed response at saturation (e.g., decreasing signal rather than plateau or charge sharing among neighbours) is expected&lt;br /&gt;
** How response of individual photodiodes within array vary and how to characterise this.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[ELogs/RaffaellaRadogna|Raffaella Radogna]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Discussed with Bari mech eng Producing second prototype with resin material harry suggested - use inventor files (should be able to open fusion) will share with them once harry has finished with the fusion file &lt;br /&gt;
* Produce 2 new prototypes (frame + fibres + screws etc) and have one sent here &lt;br /&gt;
* Beam test in Trento &lt;br /&gt;
** ~5s per beam&lt;br /&gt;
** 10 beam deliveries each for CONV and UHDR calibrations (but may only need 8)&lt;br /&gt;
** Background measurement at FSR for 12.5pC acquisition and for for FLASH &lt;br /&gt;
** Happy to cut out as many pristine Bragg peaks as necessary to keep within FLASH time limits at Trento&lt;br /&gt;
** I.e. 1 minute = 12 Bragg peaks at ~5s per measurements &lt;br /&gt;
** Or Bragg peaks at lower measurement time per FLASH Bragg peak (i.e. &amp;lt;5 s)&lt;br /&gt;
** Spot scanning at CONV dose rates &lt;br /&gt;
** Potentially WET measurement of fibres at next UCLH if using giraffe on new QuARC electronics&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[ELogs/SoniaEscribano|Sonia Escribano]] === &lt;br /&gt;
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* Looking at new calibration method - now works with txt file that is generated with calibration values&lt;br /&gt;
* Problem with calibration&lt;br /&gt;
** Need calibRMS - need separate file with these values?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Important for the fit &lt;br /&gt;
*** Include rms beneath calibration coefficients&lt;br /&gt;
** How do we save name of header file for calibration file&lt;br /&gt;
** Include in header file which files were used to generate calibration coefficients &lt;br /&gt;
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* In new file structure maybe have new file directory for background data, i.e. calibration, background, date&lt;br /&gt;
**  For now do it manually&lt;br /&gt;
* New calibration and fitting procedure &lt;br /&gt;
** generate calibration txt files using shoot throughs &lt;br /&gt;
** Apply calibration values generates calibrated txt with every single measurement &lt;br /&gt;
** Fit data averaged at 25 Hz -read calibrated data and fit at desired frequency (default 25hz)&lt;br /&gt;
* Things for new experiment &lt;br /&gt;
** Raw data = 160*8 (hex length and 8 modules)&lt;br /&gt;
** Calibration: 4 calibration_i files&lt;br /&gt;
** Calibrate data&lt;br /&gt;
** Initially split the raw data in two files for each Bragg peak &lt;br /&gt;
* Messaged harry about scintillators waiting to hear from John and Wayne but still hasn&amp;#039;t sent them scintillator sheets yet&lt;br /&gt;
* Simon and Sonia to check final design on fusion &lt;br /&gt;
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* How do you ensure consistency between modules if there&amp;#039;s difference in coupling etc&lt;br /&gt;
** Take Manchester data and do shoot-through calibration in current way then apply it to one of the shoot-through calibration files and see how it looks for each module (i.e. treat each module independently)&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to find a way to scale to dose in each of the modules &lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[ELogs/JoeBateman|Joe Bateman]] ===&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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