Eric: intro: If there is any point where people think that there is some crossover between different people's work, then pipe up. OWAMP is farthest along. Traceroute is being done by Prasad. It's been deployed on three nodes. ( There are four nodes assoc with the abeline. ) Jeff: has written a simple scheduling and authenticating daemon based on the one in OWAMP. It's been changed so that it schedules tests. It finds the next slot available to run a test in, and can perform either a sending or receiving test. My talk: Right. Security fear. Matt has got people at CITI to work on security. They will get back to us when they decide on security. To call the iperf measurements, we can use a iperfc thingummy. There is a daemon service, which handles scheduling. Nicolas: would like to work on a web service for matching a host to a measurement point and a domain interface = pathfinder. Eric: It is a key component that piPES and us haven't looked at yet. Nicolas: how would you see the pathfinder? 1,2) Supply 1 or more ip addresses, and return the PMPs associated with each one 3) Do you ask for the endpoints, and return the measurement points Not all IPs are routers. If an IP is a host, how do you ensure that you end up with the correct PMP? Eric has always assumed that the endpoints were their own measurement points. 2 parts to this problem: 1) interface to make a request, and the response; 2) how do you do a self-organising sytem? So this could simply be done as a key-value lookup. Jeff has thought that we could use DNS. If you look at how reverse-lookup works, you could do a similar thing with a different record type: check the lowest level first, then do the next. Jeff: you could do: take a traceroute, and for each address, you try to find a PMC. A self-organising p2p system could be very interesting and useful for this problem. For requesting measurements from abeline & geant do we need the interfaces? Maybe not, could just use direct requests to the PMC. owamp.internet2.edu Heather's (might have) set up a talk between us and the APAN people. (APAN is an asian version of us, see Internation workshop thingy from earlier).